Indian Renngespanne in der Schweiz Mitte 20er Jahre - KATZE als Clubsymbol am Beiwagen?

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Re: Indian Renngespanne auch am Circuito Lario aber ohne KATZE als Clubsymbol ...

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Der Lago di Como (Circuito di Lario) gehört ja faktisch auch zur Schweiz aufgrund der 50t Frontalieri heutzutage und den hohen Preisen rund um den Comersee,
Miro Maffeis fuhr anfang zwangziger Jahre 1921 auf 1000cc Indian nur 10sec hinter der HD di Amedeo Ruggeri nach 4h Rennerei. siehe Photos:
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Miro Maffeis neben seiner roten Indian
Miro Maffeis neben seiner roten Indian
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1000cc powerplus 7-9hp, bicilindrico  8 valvole 1914 (rigid), oben seitengesteuert valvole laterale, dist ingranaggi. Im Sattel Biaggio Nazzaro
1000cc powerplus 7-9hp, bicilindrico 8 valvole 1914 (rigid), oben seitengesteuert valvole laterale, dist ingranaggi. Im Sattel Biaggio Nazzaro
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Amedo Ruggeri mit Vertretern der US Marke, links Nagas, auf der rechten Ray
Amedo Ruggeri mit Vertretern der US Marke, links Nagas, auf der rechten Ray
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Indian um 1920--1923 Circuito di Lario

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Rangliste ebenfalls aus LE MOTO DA CORSA al Circuito di Lario 1921--1939 von S Colombo (what else) gekauft in Novegro Libraria GILENA etwa 100chf
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Chronologie
Chronologie
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div Indian klassiert
div Indian klassiert
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Re: Indian Renngespanne in der Schweiz Mitte 20er Jahre - KATZE als Clubsymbol am Beiwagen?

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Aus Motoprint 17/12
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Quelle: http://issuu.com/sportnetwork/docs/motosprint_17/12
Bruder, erzähle mir nicht was ein anderer über mich gesagt hat, erkläre mir lieber warum er das sagen konnte obwohl du da warst.

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Re: Indian Renngespanne in der Schweiz Mitte 20er Jahre - KATZE als Clubsymbol am Beiwagen?

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Quelle: http://bp-motorcycles.blogspot.ch/2011/ ... -miro.html

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A superb and rare photo, made from what we believe is the original negative, of a true classic board track scene, showing a Indian 61 c.i. Powerplus based racing machine with the Italian racing ace and Italian board track specialist Miro Maffeis in action!
This wonderful image was taken on one of Italy’s “ velodrome “ board tracks. It is a RARE to find photos of the European board track scene of the 1910s and 1920s, as board tracks were not as common in Europe as they were in the U.S.A. –let alone find a board track scene of an Indian on an European board track. The Italian Miro Maffeis was one of the very few true board track specialists that Europe knew at the time. He gathered many victories both on the board track as in regular road racing. He was employed by the Italian Indian importer, and one of the very first European professional racers to race with Indian. He was one of the very most successful Indian riders in Europe ever. He won numerous races on Indian, like the long distance race Milan-Napels, the famous Targa Florio, the Grand Prix of Italy, the circuito del Lario, and so on. Maffeis rode these races either with the 45 c.i. or the 61 c.i. Indian V-twins. He also was a true board track specialist, a rare discipline to master for an European rider, as there were not many board tracks around. Later on in his career he even scored some “ Six Days “ enduro/trail victories!
Board track racing was as popular as it was dangerous in the 1910s and 1920s. Basically racing was done on a wooden, banked oval that was made up of two by fours. The rough wooden surface was often heavily splintered due to the unleash of raw motorcycle power on the soft, easy to deteriorate, wood. Not only that, but the bikes normally had a total-loss oiling system. After its lubrication duty, the oil simply seeped out of the engine on the wooden track, making it besides splintery also very slippery. Combine this with the fact that the riders did not have the protective clothing as they have now and mix in the speeds that easily exceeded 100 mph and you will understand that board track races were greeted with great excitement, fear, and anxiousness by both the public as the riders. Clearly the board tracks were not the most ideal venues for racing, but in an era where spectator orientated bicycle racing domes initially were also considered ideal for motorized bicycle racing, it was hard to change locations.
Board track racing was a true American specialty, though as this photo shows also in Europe board track racing was a phenomenon! The men that raced on these early tracks were specialists that rode on the limit of what the motorcycle could possibly offer, despite all the dangers. No wonder that these men grew out to symbols of pure motorcycling heroism!
This wonderful photo reflects that golden era of board track racing as no other. How exciting where those times!
The negative comes from the collection of one of the worlds oldest Harley Davidson dealers that was in business from the early 1910’s until the end of the 1970’s. We recently took over the old inventory from the grandson of the owner. There was a lot of literature amongst the inventory, mostly very old, and amongst the Harley literature was also quite a bit of Indian and other American motorcycle literature. There are a lot of old negatives, both on celluloid as glass plates, in the files we took over, we consider this material very historic.

This is a very nice and very rare photo that reflects a wonderful era of Indian ‘s motorcycle history in a wonderful way.
Bruder, erzähle mir nicht was ein anderer über mich gesagt hat, erkläre mir lieber warum er das sagen konnte obwohl du da warst.

You can't wear out an original old Indian, or its young sister the Indian Drifter.

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Re: Indian Renngespanne in der Schweiz Mitte 20er Jahre - KATZE als Clubsymbol am Beiwagen?

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Danke Andi und Kalle für eure interessanten Beiträge!

Welches Fabrikat ist die Gabel an dieser Maschine? Brampton?

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Re: Indian Renngespanne in der Schweiz Mitte 20er Jahre - KATZE als Clubsymbol am Beiwagen?

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Die Gabel etwas näher aus dem selben Buch: (aprospos Buch , man könnt in Italien Indian Literatur orten in Milano in 2W bei Bedarf? Dies wäre der vermutlich schlaue Weg anstelle wackliger google/bilder.
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nochmals im Velodrome stehend mit 0 km/h
nochmals im Velodrome stehend mit 0 km/h
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Re: Indian Renngespanne in der Schweiz Mitte 20er Jahre - KATZE als Clubsymbol am Beiwagen?

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auf dem letzten Bild sieht man ganz gut, dass diese Maschine keine Indian ist (Tank/Lenker).

LG, scouty

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